Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Vote For MMP!!! The Facebook Group Edition (#3)

Quick, somebody go join the Vote for MMP Facebook Group! It's at 2,999 members.

For those of you wondering, No MMP Ontario is at 659 members.

That's 82% for Vote for MMP versus 18% for No MMP Ontario.

Or, as supporters of first-past-the-post would write it:

Vote for MMP: 100%
No MMP Ontario: 0%


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Raphael Alexander said...

Facebook is comprised largely of young, impressionable, leftist activists. Wait until the old fogies get a look at this MMP thing on the ballot.

Really the ballot question should be:

Do you want 20 extra patronage appointments costing taxpayers $110,000 per person per year?

Also No


Lord Kitchener's Own said...

Well, Raphael's right that Facebook skews young ("impressionable leftist activists" is perhaps too narrow a description of, basically, the entire under 30 population of the country, and if it's not, I have a feeling Raphael's vision of the ideal future is in peril, but anyway) but he's pretty much wrong about everything else.

"Patronage appointments". Sigh. It's so frustrating to see so much misinformation and obfuscation on this issue that all I can say is, that's cute.

You may be right though that old fogies may vote en massse to keep first-past-the-post. The mind's usually the first thing to go.

Lord Kitchener's Own said...

Also, on the youth of Facebook thing, Raphael may be right that MMP will fail because it's just the young who embrace electoral reform. However, I'll find that thought comforting if the Referendum forces us to keep our totally skewed electoral system for now.

As Clarence Darrow said of another important issue, "I know the future is with me, and what I stand for here."

If not now, soon.

The past may hold on to FPTP, but the future won't stand for it.

Raphael Alexander said...

I look forward to Rev2 of MMP. This one just doesn't do it for me. I would support a form of MMP that doesn't increase the size of legislature.

Small government is good government.

A. Carlton Sallet said...

I never thought I'd be agreeing with you, but this right-wing socon is voting for MMP just like you.

Strange bedfellows indeed....

Lord Kitchener's Own said...

A. Carlton Sallet,

I really don't view this as a partisan issue at all. This is about the voters, not the parties, or the policies. It's about getting a legislature that actually reflects the electorate (imagine!).

If that means some crazy socons (no offense) get a voice comensurate with their support among the electorate, I have no problem with that. As long as the crazy socialist secularists have their proper share of representation too!


A. Carlton Sallet said...

Fair enough sir, fair enough.